Friday, September 10, 2010

Fla. pastor, imam at odds over Quran-burning deal




By ANTONIO GONZALEZ

GAINESVILLE, Fla. (AP) - Will he or won't he? Negotiations between a local Muslim cleric and the leader of a tiny Florida church who had threatened to publicly burn copies of Islam's holy text left the heated debate in a state of confusion with the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attacks a day away. The Rev. Terry Jones said Thursday he would call off the planned burning of Qurans based on a deal negotiated with the president of the Islamic Society of Central Florida that the location of a mosque planned near ground zero in New York would be changed. But Imam Muhammad Musri said he was clear on Thursday when he told Jones that he could only set up a meeting with planners of the New York City mosque, whose leader said he had spoken to neither the pastor nor Musri. Jones responded by opening the door, if only a crack, that he would go forward with his plan on Saturday. "We are just really shocked," Jones said of Musri. "He clearly, clearly lied to us." For U.S. political leaders and Muslims around the world who have been outraged by Jones' antics, the on-again, off-again threat bred even more angst and frustration. Cleric Rusli Hasbi told 1,000 worshippers attending Friday morning prayers in Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim country, that whether or not he burns the Quran, Jones had already "hurt the heart of the Muslim world." "If he'd gone through with it, it would have been tantamount to war," the cleric said in the coastal town of Lhokseumawe. "A war that would have rallied Muslims all over the world." Muslims consider the book the sacred word of God and insist it be treated with the utmost respect. In Afghanistan, where tens of thousands of U.S. troops are in harm's way, President Hamid Karzai said he heard Jones had perhaps abandoned his Quran-burning plan. "The holy book is implanted in the hearts and minds of all the Muslims," Karzai said. "Humiliation of the holy book represents the humiliation of our people. I hope that this decision will be stopped and should never have been considered." Jones announced earlier Thursday - with Musri at his side - that they had a bargain and that he would call off the Quran-burning. Later he accused Musri of lying and said the burning was only suspended, not canceled. Musri, countered that Jones wasn't confused or misled and that "after we stepped out in front of the cameras, he stretched my words" about the agreement. The imam in charge of the New York Islamic center and mosque project also quickly denied any deal was made. Musri said Jones had instead caved into the firestorm of criticism from around the world and that his announcement might have been a ploy to try to force Muslim leaders' hand on the Islamic center. Jones said later that he expected Musri to keep his word and "the imam in New York to back up one of his own men." Musri said he still plans to go ahead with the meeting Saturday. In New York, the Islamic center project leader, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, said in a statement that he was glad Jones had backed down but that he had spoken to neither the pastor nor Musri. "We are not going to toy with our religion or any other. Nor are we going to barter," Rauf said. "We are here to extend our hands to build peace and harmony." Opponents argue it is insensitive to families and memories of Sept. 11 victims to build a mosque so close to where Islamic extremists flew planes into the World Trade Center and killed nearly 2,800 people. Proponents say the project reflects religious freedom and diversity and that hatred of Muslims is fueling the opposition. Moving the mosque is not why Jones canceled his threat, Musri said. Instead, he relented under the pressure from political and religious leaders of all faiths worldwide to halt what President Barack Obama called a "stunt." Musri said Jones told him the burning "would endanger the troops overseas, Americans traveling abroad and others around the world." "That was the real motivation for calling it off," Musri said. Jones had never invoked the mosque controversy as a reason for his planned protest at his Dove World Outreach Center. Instead, he cited his belief that the Quran is evil because it espouses something other than biblical truth and incites radical, violent behavior among Muslims. Obama urged Jones to listen to "those better angels," saying that besides endangering lives, it would give Islamic terrorists a recruiting tool. Defense Secretary Robert Gates took the extraordinary step of calling Jones personally. Jones' church, which has about 50 members, is independent of any denomination. It follows the Pentecostal tradition, which teaches that the Holy Spirit can manifest itself in the modern day. News of the cancellation also was welcomed by Jones' neighbors in Gainesville, a city of 125,000 anchored by the sprawling University of Florida campus. At least two dozen Christian churches, Jewish temples and Muslim organizations in the city had mobilized to plan inclusive events, including Quran readings at services, as a counterpoint to Jones' protest. Jones said at the news conference that he prayed about the decision and concluded that if the mosque was moved, it would be a sign from God to call off the Quran burning. "We are, of course, now against any other group burning Qurans," Jones said. "We would right now ask no one to burn Qurans. We are absolutely strong on that. It is not the time to do it." Despite Jones' words, in the Gaza Strip, Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh said to a crowd of tens of thousands of Muslim faithful that they had come "to respond to this criminal, this liar, this crazy priest who reflects a crazy Western attitude toward Islam and the Muslim nation." "We came to say, the Quran is our constitution, we are committed to God and his holy book," he said to those holding the texts in their hands at a stadium in the northern town of Beit Lahiya. "God willing, should they try to carry out their crime against the Quran, God will tear their state apart and they will become God's lesson to anyone who tries to desecrate the holy book." Part of the pressure exerted on Jones came from Gates who briefly spoke to the pastor before his first announcement to call it off. Gates expressed "his grave concern that going forward with this Quran burning would put the lives of our forces at risk, especially in Iraq and Afghanistan," said Pentagon spokesman Geoff Morrell. Morrell said earlier that the decision to issue a personal appeal was not easy because it could provoke other extremists "who, all they want, is a call from so-and-so." Earlier, Jones had said if he was contacted by the White House that he might change his mind. After Gates' call to Jones, Morrell said the secretary's "fundamental baseline attitude about this is that if that phone call could save the life of one man or woman in uniform it was a call worth placing."

NY mosque investor declines Trump's buyout offer











NEW YORK — Donald Trump offered Thursday to buy out a major investor in the real estate partnership that controls the site near ground zero where a Muslim group wants to build a 13-story Islamic center and mosque.

The offer, though, fell flat nearly instantly.

"This is just a cheap attempt to get publicity and get in the limelight," said Wolodymyr Starosolsky, a lawyer for the investor, Hisham Elzanaty.

In a letter released Thursday by Trump's publicist, the real estate investor told Elzanaty that he would buy his stake in the lower Manhattan building for 25 percent more than whatever he paid.

"I am making this offer as a resident of New York and citizen of the United States, not because I think the location is a spectacular one (because it is not), but because it will end a very serious, inflammatory, and highly divisive situation that is destined, in my opinion, to only get worse," the letter said.

Trump also attached a condition to his offer: He said that as part of the deal, the backers of the mosque project would need to promise that any new mosque they constructed would be at least five blocks farther away from the World Trade Center site.

In Gainesville, Fla., a minister said he had canceled plans to burn copies of the Quran because the imam leading the mosque agreed to move its location. Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf said that he was surprised by the announcement and that he would not barter.

The current planned location is just two blocks north of the site. Opponents argue it's insensitive to families and memories of Sept. 11 victims to build a mosque so close to where Islamic extremists flew planes into the World Trade Center and killed nearly 2,800 people, while proponents support the project as a reflection of religious freedom and diversity.

It's unclear how much control Elzanaty has over the property, which is owned by an eight-member investment group led by Soho Properties, but his response was unequivocal.

"He knows what the value of the building is. If he were really interested in buying the buiding, he would have come forward with at least $20 million," Starosolsky said.

Elzanaty said he remains committed to the idea of having a mosque built on at least part of the property.

A spokesman for Soho Properties general manager Sharif El-Gamal and his nonprofit group, Park51, did not immediately respond to a request for comment Thursday. Earlier in the day, the organization sent a statement to The Associated Press affirming that Soho Properties controlled the real estate and that Elzanaty was one of several investors.

El-Gamal and other people associated with the Islamic center have refused to detail the ownership structure of the real estate partnership that holds the site.

Elzanaty's lawyer did not immediately return a phone message Thursday. But in a pair of interviews with the AP this week, Elzanaty said he had invested in the site with an intention of making a profit and was willing to half the land for private development, and maybe all of it if a Muslim group doesn't come forward with enough money to build the mosque.

—Copyright 2010 Associated Press

He has lost what little mind he had left - Powell: 'We Must Go Forward' on Ground Zero Mosque













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Tuesday, September 7, 2010

Where's the understanding for America and our crazies ?


Hey Islam, America has crazy extremists on our side also, so sorry but get over it! It's ok when your crazies burn the American Flag or burn our bible, right! We are supposed to be understanding and turn the other cheek. When your crazies fly planes into our buildings killing 3500 innocent people, it's not all Muslims that are bad right? -- just the crazy extremists. When your crazies want to build a mosque on Ground Zero, we are supposed to all come together and embrace Islam, right!

To the Muslims who have stood by for the past ten years and done nothing and said nothing because it's just the crazy extremist Muslims who are killing, how about showing the same tolerance for America and its nut jobs.

To be honest, all Muslims should be glad our crazies don't know how to fly planes and have a GPS set for Mecca and your other holy shrines filled with innocents!

So Islam -- Get over it, your crazies are doing much worse things than burning holy books!

Burn a Quran' pastor: Plan could put Americans in danger 'We realized whenever we did this it could cause some sort of retaliation'
















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Terry Jones

The controversial pastor planning to hold a Quran-burning ceremony on Sept. 11 says he has received over 100 death threats.

Terry Jones, leader of the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainsville, Fla., also admitted his plan could put Americans in danger.

Jones was speaking in a radio interview yesterday with WND's Aaron Klein, who hosts an investigative program on New York's WABC Radio.

Asked by Klein whether he believes the "Burn a Quran Day" ceremonies will put Americans in danger of Muslim retaliation, Jones replied, "Yes, of course that is possible. That is definitely not what we want. We realized whenever we did this, it could cause some sort of retaliation."

Jones said he received over 100 death threats, some of which were "pretty graphic."

"We received letters, emails, phone calls saying they were going go kill us, when they were going to kill us, how they were going to kill us," he said.

One threat, Jones said, warned that "three people were on their way here, they were armed with explosives and automatic weapons and they were going to blow up the church."

"They were going to burn me alive," Jones added.

Audio of the interview can be heard below:




Jones said he brought the threats to local police officials as well as to the FBI and Justice Department.

"They will try to do their best to protest us," he said.

Yesterday, about 3,000 members of a hard-line Islamic group marched to the U.S. Embassy in Jakarta, waving banners and posting Jones' Quran-burning plan.

Last week, the city of Gainesville denied a burn permit to Jones' Dove center. Gene Prince, the interim chief of Gainesville Fire Rescue, told the Gainsville Sun that under the city's fire prevention ordinance an open burning of books is not allowed. The church will be fined if it forges ahead with its plan, Prince said.

Jones told Klein his church will still attempt to destroy Qurans on Sept. 11.

"If they put it out, then we will have an alternative plan, and we will burn the Qurans in an incinerator," he said.

Jones said while there was "no doubt" his plans were offensive to Muslims, "We tried to make it very clear our action is not against the moderate Muslims. Our message is strictly geared toward the radical Muslims."

The National Association of Evangelicals, the nation's largest umbrella evangelical group, meanwhile, issued a statement urging the church to cancel the event, warning it could cause worldwide tension between the two religions.

"The NAE calls on its members to cultivate relationships of trust and respect with our neighbors of other faiths," the statement reads. "God created human beings in his image, and therefore all should be treated with dignity and respect."

Responding to the statement, Jones told Klein, he had "no intention" of cancelling the event.

Jones continued: "We think those type of statements actually to a certain extent prove our point that the American church has become very weak, very cowardly. [They] are not ready to stand up [for the] principles of the Bible."

Fraud charges plaguing Planned Parenthood Developing cases could lead to cutoff of federal funding


By Brian Fitzpatrick
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"This case isn’t going to shut down a billion dollar operation in California," Weber observed. "But it could induce other states to look at Planned Parenthood billing practices in their own jurisdictions. If enough lawsuits get filed and enough illegal billing is brought to light, Planned Parenthood might become toxic, like ACORN, and political pressure could force Congress to withdraw support."

The California suit was filed by P. Victor Gonzalez, the former chief financial officer for Planned Parenthood-Los Angeles. According to the ACLJ, the suit alleges that "PP affiliates in California illegally marked up the supposed cost of various birth control drugs when seeking government reimbursement, resulting in tens of millions of dollars of overbilling" to the state and federal governments.

ACLJ continued, "State audits in both California and Washington State have found PP affiliates guilty of overbilling."

Gonzalez alleges that Planned Parenthood fired him in 2004 after he began asking questions about the organization's billing practices.

ACLJ also notes that "the federal False Claims Act (FCA) forbids government contractors from submitting 'false or fraudulent' claims for payment. The FCA also authorizes private individuals to bring suit against the offenders to recover the fraudulently obtained funds."

Attorneys representing Planned Parenthood argued unsuccessfully before the 9th Circuit that Gonzales was not a qualified whistleblower under the FCA.

Planned Parenthood billing practices have come under scrutiny across the nation.

The Abortion in Washington blog reports that an audit by that state's Department of Social and Health Services concluded that between 2004 and 2007, Planned Parenthood of Spokane overbilled Medicaid for condoms, conducted unnecessary pregnancy tests and charged for doctor's visits when patients were simply picking up prescriptions.

The agency ordered Planned Parenthood of Spokane to reimburse the government $630,000 plus interest and suggested that Planned Parenthood of Spokane could lose its Medicaid billing privileges if the improper practices continued.

New Jersey Right to Life reported last month that a series of three audits performed by the inspector general of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services revealed extensive overbilling by family planning clinics in that state.

Clinics, "especially Planned Parenthood providers," routinely billed the federal government for medical services that don't qualify as "family planning services." The federal government picks up 90 percent of the cost of family planning services, rather than an even split with the state government, a significant savings to the state.

According to ACLJ's Weber, the 90:10 split encourages state governments to approve claims by third parties like Planned Parenthood, which in turn give political support to state governments. The inspector general recommended that New Jersey pay back nearly $3 million to the federal treasury.

WND spoke with several press aides from the Department of Health and Human Services, who confirmed that the department has the authority to invoke a "sanction of exclusion" to cut off funding to organizations that commit fraud. The aides could not say when the policy might be applied to Planned Parenthood.